It has to be Pete Doherty - The Libertines and Babyshambles are/were both sh*te!
Astral Weeks is an a perfect example of a cool album that sucks.
Desperate heap of Sh!te, regardless of what the 'industry types' tell me.
'Cool' bands that really suck.
1. Green day
2. Kaiser Chiefs
3. Oasis
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It has to be Pete Doherty - The Libertines and Babyshambles are/were both sh*te!
I reckon the Killers are very overrated. As for a frontman called Brandon Flowers who wears white suits on stage.... rock n roll eh..
'Fascists dress in black and go round telling people what to do, where as priests.....'
This could go on forever. How about all Rock bands around now and all Rock/Indie/so called Alternative Rock!!!. it's all been done before but much better. I mean for ****sake Babyshambles, kaizer Chiefs,Oasis, Snow Patrol, Franz Ferdinand. Imitators and crap ones at that.
You'd be better off going to see one of those tribute bands in your local pub. At least that way you'd get to hear a reasonable rendition of the original songs.
There was a time when all of this stood for something different from the mainstream, truly alternative in terms of music, the distribution of the music the politics of the music, the dress sense. Now all the kids are ****ing boring trying to dress like their dads did years ago and calling it alternative. Where are all the tribes gone, the punks, the skins, the goths, the skaheads, the bikers, the mods, the ravers, the indie heads etc, etc. Where are the new trends, the new styles, the new haircuts. All a rehash and a bad one at that. Christ have you seen some of the young goths, they can't even spike their hair properly or dye it!!
Where is all the excitement gone? The bad directions to a rave in West Cork somewhere, the chase from a "fiend" cause you've got a funny haircut, the way the gang of skins took over the pavement, the array of Mohicans at the peace park, good original bands playing gigs for the first time in your city, the emergence of new types of musical cultures etc, etc.
All the kids have been bought by the man!!! Where is the rebellion or am I missing something?
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Damien F***ING Dempsey. That git makes my blood boil. What a w*nkbag!!
Seriously....
thers no bulls**t with this guy his as real as you get.if you dont like his music just say so,i dont no him personally and i doubt you do so where does the w**kbag come from?Originally Posted by joeSoap
He does music?Originally Posted by see's it
I just thought he had a pain.
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Couldn't agree with you more man. Great point but Gerrit might have something to add to your Goth comments. LOLOriginally Posted by rebs23
Amazing how things change too. You had the Strolling Bones amd especially Jagger painted as the devil's representative on earth back in the 60s and early 70s and now it's "arise, SIR Michael Jagger" Needless to say, much about the alternative scene back then was pure bunkum BUT there was a kind of counter culture of sorts back then. Record companies were more willing to take a chance with new bands and give them a chance to grow. Nowadays, if there isn't a big hit by the second album (sometimes even the first album) it's bye bye.
As far as I can recall, it was a kinda smorgasboard of being into rock, free love (Irish translation - the odd bonk outside marriage if you were lucky), soccer, leftish politics, anti-Capitalism etc etc and so and so on.
How deep it was it's hard to say but it sure felt good and a bit liberating at the time and did change things somewhat. I think the feeling did eventually permeate society, especially the baby boomer generation like me and got rid of a lot of awful parochialism and deference to authority - church, political parties, tradition etc.
The reaction back then was anyone having a liking for rock music, soccer and any type of politics outside FF and FG were called Shoneens ie. England lovers. Called that a few times myself.
This is/was something very hard to measure though.
Like all novelty though, the free love scene gradually transformed into the capitalism of sex - porn. Music has now become a thoroughly corporate affair with identkit groups in many cases serving a market. Football? Where to start?? Politics - is there any left left, so to speak??
With the likes of Tesco and fewer music companies dominating the music market, it gets harder and harder for any experimental music bands to break through.
You get a successful Celine Dion which means that record companies then supply us with Mariah Carey, Delta Goodrem and loads more such stuff. Take that means we end up with Boyzone, Westlife, Blue and so on.
Kinda like Girls Aloud.
Were they ever cool?
Can I be saved??
No and No.Originally Posted by sirhamish
Sugarbabes are way better and cooler!!!
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LOL - I'm doomed so rebs 23.Originally Posted by rebs23
Must admit I like Heidi Range. That song "Stronger" is nice.
The first three Girls Aloud ditties weren't too bad - "No good advice" is an ok pop song.
Weee'rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre drrrrrrrrifting.
Sugababes? Girls Aloud? Maybe I should've specifically named Skanger-knack-pop in my moritorium.
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Ah go on now, LR, admit it, you do watch Girls Aloud when they're on telly.Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
I'd never take my eyes off anyone that likely to twist a broken bottle in my face.Originally Posted by sirhamish
I s'pose the geordie one's not bad but that bindipping scouser's is wrecked.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
most of these band ye are on about arent "cool" in the sense that NME havent latched on to them like leeches i suppose the cool bands at the mo would be arctic monkeys , arcade fire etc but then the backlash is never more than 6 months away
Which one's the scouser??Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
Muse are just on Kerrang now.......not mad about them either.
Where do they rate on the cool meter??
I kinda like Girls Aloud too, but there music is sh*teOriginally Posted by sirhamish
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"No good advice" is a decent pop song. Nothing special. Just a nifty little ditty.Originally Posted by Neish
I feel there's a place for quality pop as well as the good stuff.
I suppose the best way to describe it is after a good meal, a little dessert is nice too. Not essential but pleasant now and again.
She's the redish haired one with the slitty eyes of a hardened glue-sniffer who you can picture exactly what she'll look like at 65 already.Originally Posted by sirhamish
Muse are on the cover of Kerrang? Christ. I'm depressed.
Yes they would rate highly both on the "Cool-meter" and the "in sore need of a right kicking" count as well
Girls Alouds songs are less terrible than much of their ilk ...but as an entity they are a dreadful loathsome development. Walsh (-inspired by Watermans treatment of the vile Steps of whom Waterman said "they asked me to make them famous ...rich was never mentioned") has manipulated those girls into downright exploitative contracts.
That they are willing participants in their own fleecing is worth mentioning but hardly the final word on the matter.
They are reportedly on fixed salaries and are essentially candy-coating on someone elses cake. When I say "reportedly" it's something one of them inadvertently blurted out in an interview some time ago.
Like all pop acts they are what's known in the biz as a 'Cash Cow' -however traditionally the cow got to see a bit more of the cash than I suspect these girls do or ever will. I doubt they have any residual rights once the group runs its course which can't be more than another year or two.
Actually I doubt you'd get an accurate answer if you were to ask any of them what a residual right is.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
The Beatles always left me cold.
Oasis have always left me bored.
The Smiths and Nirvana always left me angry.
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