What percentage of the ground are you required to give to away fans? Derry would be fairly peed off if Cork lied about their capacity and screwed a couple of hundred Derry fans out of tickets.
And Cork would be mighty ****ed off if they realised City fans bought up loads of tickets via credit card!
The F.A.I would also be ****ed off if they knew any city fans standing outside at kick-off were allowed inside at face value of a ticket.
Easily 9,000 in the X
"The Derry fans were fantastic in both matches. They sang their hearts out all the time and created an even better atmosphere than the Cup Final. They were brilliant. - David Graham, Gretna striker
I think the whole concept of "capacity" must mean something different down there...Originally Posted by pineapple stu
In Cork, there is an additional meaningca·pac·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-ps-t)
n. pl. ca·pac·i·ties
The ability to receive, hold, or absorb.
Abbr. c. A measure of this ability; volume.
The maximum amount that can be contained: a trunk filled to capacity.
Ability to perform or produce; capability.
The maximum or optimum amount that can be produced: factories operating below capacity.
The power to learn or retain knowledge; mental ability.
Innate potential for growth, development, or accomplishment; faculty. See Synonyms at ability.
The quality of being suitable for or receptive to specified treatment: the capacity of elastic to be stretched.
The position in which one functions; role: in your capacity as sales manager.
Legal qualification or authority: the capacity to make an arrest.
Electricity. Capacitance.
adj.
Filling a space with the most it can hold: a capacity crowd at the concert.
- a random number, plucked out of thin air, that bears no resemblance to how many people can safely fit inside a stadium.
Given that the Genesis report used crowd estimates from this thread as the basis of an official report into the future of the eircom League, I'm guessing that the FAI/UEFA Licensing committee have a similarly loose interpretation of the word.
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There were no safety problem with the cross last friday. Makes a change to see packed ground on tv as opposed to empty stand from dublin venues. The shed was packed beyond belief but it was its send off night so don't see anyone complaining.
When Pats have no mud banks & stones in their ground then you can complain.
No-one's pretending there wasn't a great crowd and that Cork haven't had excellent attendances (by eL standards) all season. I'm just wondering why Cork City FC would misrepresent the safe capacity of the ground they play in and deliberately understate the attendance for the biggest game of the season by at least 20%
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I'm sure we are given a capacity by officials but as we all know that wouldn't allow for extra stand room behind seats & extraordinary numbers in the shed.I'm just wondering why Cork City FC would misrepresent the safe capacity of the ground they play in and deliberately understate the attendance for the biggest game of the season by at least 20%
Were plenty of people jumping walls & getting through other unofficial means anyway.
Only the shed could be considered in any way "unsafe".
Drogs v Shels 1,550
Drogs v Harps 1,500
Cheers WW.
200 guesstimate for Athlone-Galway.
120 at Kildare-Sligo
3100 estimated for Bohs-Shels. 1700 at Longford-Shels (same post)
Would have guessed around 250 at the Cobh match.Athlone 323 (291) (missing Cobh 2 and Galway 2)
The Galway match was about 300 the extra 50 accounted for by Galways travelling support
If you can contact atfconline I am sure he might be able to give you offical figures though
Approx 1900 at Rovers V CHF. Will have an exact figure tomorrow.
You probably have it already but official attendance for Cork City v St Pats in Turners cross was 3,266
I'm what? I'm ants at a picnic?
With regards that Longford v Waterford TG4 game that you're missing, I remember talking to someone who was at it who estimated about 300 - 400 in total at the game. Was there a significant fall-off in Longford's home crowd after they went out of the cup and Europe? Definitely seemed to be very poor in the latter stages of the season.
Few more...
Kildare averaging about 125-175 per game (not sure how I'm going to put that in short of giving all their missing games 150 each)
Kildare v. Monaghan and both Monaghan v. Kildare games - about 100 each
Cork City website reports "nearly 8000 crammed into Turner's Cross" for the Derry game.
Longford v. Waterford - Longford say 700, Waterford say 400 tops. Will go with 500.
Apparently 150-200 at Kilkenny v. Sligo. 270 mentioned for Kildare-Sligo, along with 120 elsewhere on the Sligo board and 125-175 for most of Kildare's games. Will go with 175.
id give 2200 at Rovers v chf. that allows for over 600 empty seats in the jodi .which is being very conservative,the stand seemed packed,my dad was down at section B ,he said it was full there, i was in section E, where it was considerably over full-ie people standing at the front and in the clear ways.) il allow for a couple of hundred empty seats right down at the shopping centre end of the jodi,which i didnt see.
about 140 chf fans.words fail me.
as for shels bohs.nowhere near 3100. from tv pictures id say 2500 is generous
Rovers V CHF in Dalymount - There were actually 204 in the Des Kelly. Very few of those were neutrals. The official attendance was 1654 plus 75 who used their season tickets and 150 freebies ( children under 14 accompanied ). Total 1879.
An important thing that i suppose most fans guilty of - including freebies in estimates would explain why official figures always look much smaller - they won't include freebies.
Official figures are supposed to include everything, including freebies. Would be easy enough keep track of - I know we have an officials gate with names to be let in for free which are ticked off as they arrive.
Couple of Dublin City attendances...
150 Dublin City v. Kildare
250 Dublin City v. Monaghan
400 Kilkenny v. Monaghan
DC v. Kildare is described as "pretty abysmal", while it's about the average for what I have and almost twice the worst I have, so don't know which is right. Maybe the above are a bit on the high side.
Edit - also down as 150 for DC v. Kildare, 120 for DC v. Kilkenny, 170 for DC v. Monaghan and 300 for KC v. DC. Will go with these on the usual basis that they're lower to keep the figures conservative.
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