LoI in Europe 2024

[Dermobohs]

TNS's ground is within England, yet they are still permitted to use it for European games. Perhaps the difference is that it is their home ground?

You may actually be correct, though I've never seen it confirmed anywhere. For example, Cardiff and Swansea etc are still members of the FAW, which has jurisdiction over disciplinary matters etc, even when those have been committed in the (English) FA's jurisdiction.

Certainly DCFC's womens' team are members of the IFA, playing in the Irish League's Womens Premiership.

Berwick also play outside England

[thebronze14]

There wasn't much between Derry and Tobol last year, so we can maybe presume our league is on a par with the Kazakh?
Certainly don't want them from a travel perspective. It's a quarter of a million for a charter there and back.

Celje and Dinamo Minsk are ones you'd want to avoid as well. Larne is the dream.

One of the only times you'll see the words Larne and dream together

[nigel-harps1954]

11 of the 15 potential opponents for Rovers in the champions league are now known.

NK Celje Slo 4.500
Hamrun Spartans Mlt 4.500
Larne FC Nir 4.500
Dinamo Minsk Bls 4.500
FK Panevezys Lit 4.000
Ordabasy Shymkent Kaz 4.000
Vikingur Reykjavik Isl 4.000
FC Struga Mac 3.500
Differdange 03 Lux 3.500
UE Santa Coloma And 1.199
AC Virtus Sma 0.366


I hadn't realised that there's no preliminary round this year. San Marino or Andorra would be the only games I think you'd make Rovers 90% favorites for.

Kazakh champions would be the worst out of that list so far but it's really hard to know what the standard of the league s year on year.

At least half of them should be considered winnable ties. Never mind picking out one or two. If we're serious at all about growth of the league, you have to be looking at your first round tie as winnable.

[sbgawa]

At least half of them should be considered winnable ties. Never mind picking out one or two. If we're serious at all about growth of the league, you have to be looking at your first round tie as winnable.

We just lost at home 3 to 1 to Waterford and drew at home to Pats.........is any tie winnable?

[nigel-harps1954]

We just lost at home 3 to 1 to Waterford and drew at home to Pats.........is any tie winnable?

Both of those ties were winnable. Winnable does not always equate to a win, but it is surely the aim for Rovers in any league game, as it should be in any European game.

[pineapple stu]

We just lost at home 3 to 1 to Waterford and drew at home to Pats.........is any tie winnable?

Of course it is. Ideally ye'd be looking for a tie against a part-time side low-ranked enough to be in the preliminary round which has been done away with this year.

What could possibly go wrong there?

[Nesta99]

As poor as the quality may be domestically as a seeded side there is always going to be winnable ties in QR1. If the calamity self implosion moments dont happen they can often be a performance of the season like Derry last year. A footballing side that isnt dealing with familiarity and spoiling anti football tactics. I also think if a side gets through 1 tie they get up to speed even when opponents are getting better with progression. I wouldnt be putting my house on Rovers going on previous seasons and Bradley setting up to contain rather than compete but it is within that squad to do well with the right setup and of course the talismen players available.

[ger121]

So many leagues around Europe have had teams win titles or are leading leagues, that either never win titles or do so rarely.

[EatYerGreens]

So many leagues around Europe have had teams win titles or are leading leagues, that either never win titles or do so rarely.

The underdogs have also won the national cups in various countries around the world this season as well - from Wales and NI to Hungary.

There seems to be something going on re big clubs being wobbly and minnows having a moment.

[joey B]

Draw details for UEFA European men's competition confirmed

The draw timings for the opening Quailfying Rounds for the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Europa League and UEFA Europa Conference League have been confirmed as below.

Shamrock Rovers will compete in the UEFA Champions League First Qualifying Round, while Derry City (First Qualifying Round), Shelbourne (First Qualifying Round) and St. Patrick's Athletic (Second Qualifying Round*) will compete in the UEFA Europa Conference League.

The draws will be streamed on UEFA.com.

Tuesday, 18 June 2024 at

13:00 for UCL 1st qualifying round (Q1)
14:00 for UEL 1st qualifying round (Q1)
15:00 for UECL 1st qualifying round (Q1)

Wednesday, 19 June 2024 at

11:00 for UCL 2nd qualifying round (Q2)
12:00 for UEL 2nd qualifying round (Q2)
13:00 for UECL 2nd qualifying round (Q2)
All times Irish.

* Based on current projections and all subject to final UEFA seedings and draw proceedings

https://www.leagueofireland.ie/news/...ion-confirmed/

[EatYerGreens]

TNS's ground is within England, yet they are still permitted to use it for European games. Perhaps the difference is that it is their home ground?

The difference is that TNS - and by extension their ground - are part of the Welsh system. If they sought to play a European fixture in Shrewsbury instead they'd face issues, even though it's also in England and only 30kms up the road.

Playing European club fixtures in a different jurisdiction is not impossible. Israeli clubs do it fairly frequently (for obvious reasons). Shels also played Rangers in Tranmere (Prenton Park) in 1998. but were forced to do so. Famously UEFA also forced Linfield to play the home leg of their 1979 European fixture against Dundalk in Haarlem, NL. But that's the point. You usually need a fairly good reason why you can;t fulfill the fixture in your own ground or jurisdiction. Not having developed your own ground to be able to host a latter stage fixture is not sufficient reason.