QuoteSo you're feeling like Ian Paisley today? how strange...Originally Posted by joeSoap
Points taken, and Gilberto, no offence meant. I'm having one of those f=days where I'd pick a row with the Pope....just ignore me...I'll go away.
So you're feeling like Ian Paisley today? how strange...
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why in Gods name would i think he should be shot... i was putting myself in a gangsters position, and find it hard to comprehend how he's still doing his job after all this time!.
he's the biggest threat to the underworld since veronica guerin and we all know what happened there. not sure how many she investigated but i know Williams has gone through quite a few scumbags dirty laundry over the years.
and its even been highlighted in this thread how low the conviction rate is!!.
so there has to be something else to it?!
There's the right way, the wrong way.... and the Max Power way!! :-D
Never understood why we don't allow the government to carry out contract killings over a short space of time on all gangland bosses/gang members, say if they were to send the army out for Ireland very own Night of the Long Knives (but with deserving people this time) and the general public just turns a blind eye to it.
Sure it could be construed as a minor act of genocide, as undoubtably a lot of people would die, and sure it could lead to a government that carries out contract killings on their rivals if the wrong people were in charge at the time, but, well I've always wanted to live in a Orwell novel so let's do this thing!!!Or shot. Whatever works best.
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You should see how we learn to approach press releases in college adam, you'd love it.
Like most journalists then.
If this was the case, why didn't he report it to the guards? Surely any decent human being who knows someone's going to be killed will report it, no matter how much of a low life the victim is.
I can honestly say I've never read any Paul Williams articles so I'm not exactly up-to-date with his reporting but either he's a very imaginative person who gets lucky with stories or he needs to take a long hard look at himself. He had information that someone was to be killed and he didn't inform the guards. And if he did, then that is a sickening approach by the guards. Justice is supposed to be unbiased.
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Apparently the gardai have been aware of this for a while. Most of Williams info and leaks come from Garda Headquarters and low ranking wannabe criminals the Sunday World throws a few quid to. Its an easy, idealsitic outlook to have in saying that justice is meant to be unbiased.That never has, nor never will be the case. I firmly believe that these people(drug lords) are of absolutely no use to society and deserve to die by the sword by which they choose to live. They're not born drug dealers. They become them through greed. They live off the misfortune of poor addicts that in turn are driven to crime in order to feed their addictions. A swift bullet in the head is too good for John Daly, Marlo Hyland, Kieran Keane, Eddie Ryan and their likes. Don't get me started on what my idea of punishment for them would be....please.
Apparently the Gardai had warned Daly that his life was in danger and advised him on precautions to take. It was apparently common knowledge that his phone call to Duffy, which resulted in the searches that discovered a load of mobile phones, flat scren tv's and the budgies, had ****ed of some major crims.
The most expensive phone call he ever made
Maybe we should emigrate to Perth, Australia where there hasn't been a murder in 6 months.
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Drug baron suspect in gangland slaying
Daly ignored warning signs and paid the ultimate price
By Tom Brady Security Editor-Irish Independent
Tuesday October 23 2007
A major drug trafficker is a prime suspect for yesterday's clinical murder of gangland "hard man" and maverick, John Daly.
But senior garda officers leading the hunt for his killers last night admitted there was no shortage of theories to be investigated.
Daly's reputation as a troublemaker and a nasty thug with a violent streak meant he had a long list of enemies.
His notorious phone call to RTE's 'Liveline' programme from a mobile phone while in his cell at Portlaoise jail last May ensured that the list would lengthen, as other gangland figures lost their phones during the subsequent crackdown by the prison authorities.
Since his release, Daly (27) had been mainly lying low around his home at Cloonlara Drive in the north Dublin suburb of Finglas.
But it was known that he was anxious to establish himself as a serious player on the crime scene and step into the vacuum created by the murder last December of gangland boss, Martin "Marlo" Hyland. Despite his notoriety, Daly was not a major criminal and detectives suspect that his efforts to carve out a drug trafficking "patch" in his own area brought him into conflict with a 31-year-old Finglas gangster, a former lieutenant of Hyland's.
After his release last August from Cork prison, where he had been moved following the searches for phones in Portlaoise, gardai became aware of several threats on his life.
Officers passed on this information to Daly and offered advice about personal security measures but he ignored the advice and was not co-operative.
On Sunday night, Daly and a group of friends had been socialising in Dublin city centre.
On their way home the group called into a number of houses in the Finglas area in search of a party. At some stage the taxi, which had collected Daly and five friends, who included three women, was tailed by a dark-coloured Toyota Land Cruiser.
When the taxi stopped near Daly's home at Cloonlara Drive at 1.45am, a man jumped out of the Land Cruiser and walked over to establish that Daly was sitting in the front passenger seat.
He fired at least five shots into Daly and ran off.
As he was dying, Daly slumped sideways across the taxi driver, who was unable to unbuckle his seatbelt to get out of the vehicle.
The driver's uncle yesterday described how his nephew was unsure whether he had been shot also because of the amount of blood on the seat.
Meanwhile, the killer and at least one accomplice sped off in the Land Cruiser, which they abandoned and set on fire at the junction of Scribblestown Road and Scribblestown Avenue.
Last night, gardai were trying to trace the origins of the badly burnt jeep, which had been fitted with false registration plates.
Detectives were also attempting to establish whether the killer had followed Daly and his group from the city centre or learned of his whereabouts as a result of the later house calls around Finglas.
One senior officer last night described Daly as a maverick, who was unpredictable, violent, with no firm allegiances and regarded in some circles as a potential psychopath.
"He would not have been part of any criminal understanding and was on his own. He moved around so much and was so erratic that none of the big crime figures associated with him for very long," he added.
While in Portlaoise jail, Daly associated with gang bosses such as John Gilligan and members of the Limerick-based Keane gang.
He was initially jailed for his part in a petrol station hold-up on the Finglas Road in 1999. He was released early but the rest of the sentence was reactivated after Daly committed a public order offence.
Four years ago, he was charged with possession of a shotgun with intent to endanger life and assault causing serious harm to Liam McAllister, a nephew of Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams
There is a huge market for drugs in Ireland (so called middle and upper classes the worst abusers of Cocaine) so lets stop kidding ourselves that getting rid of the current crew of nutters is going to change anything.
Quote from Pat Rabbitte in the Dail in 2006.
As Bertie will tell us crime is falling & this just media hype.“If you take the Dublin area that has been the subject of this controversy, Dublin homicides for example were up 53% last year, and yet detection rates have fallen in Dublin to 32%.
I'm sorry but LMFAO
Because 100s of 1000s of simple folk will buy the Sunday World if his mug is on the coverand find it hard to comprehend how he's still doing his job after all this time!
Again LMFAOhe's the biggest threat to the underworld since veronica guerin and we all know what happened there.
Threat my hole.
On an aside Veronica wasn't a very nice person at allnot sure how many she investigated but i know Williams has gone through quite a few scumbags dirty laundry over the years.
Yet you still think Paul Williams is a threat????and its even been highlighted in this thread how low the conviction rate is!!.
Nopeso there has to be something else to it?!
Can you do anything on this site without multi-quoting??
I'd say that although he has a fair bit of information about criminals, more that the police in some cases, he won't be harmed because he's a journalist.
After Veronica Guerin was killed there was outrage, the police acted quickly and efficiently (for once), CAB was set up, millions in illegal cash was frozen, a few high level criminals sent to prison. No criminal/gang needs that kind of pressure.
To put it bluntly: as long as they only kill other gang members, they'll be left alone, but killing people outside that range will see a lot of public outrage and police action.
Can I what??
Oh Rightdo anything on this site without multi-quoting?
No, no I can't
There was a program on the radio where a sociologist who had completed a study on the subject revealed that children whose parents ( mainly father's) are in jail mostly end up as criminals. How much more so would it happen where mother's are criminals?
Gangland crime tends to be run by families and latterly tribes as such.
The solution long term to the problem is to geld/neuter habitual criminals and prevent them from having children.
Eventually they would die out. Well we don't have the death penalty anymore so some other deterrent is required. And besides if poverty is the root of crime well then having less mouths to feed when you come out of jail will help them stay straight
Do the crime and lose your powers to procreate
P.S. As regards there being a lack of investigative journalism in this country , that is cause hacks are lazy. You only have to see the number of newspaper articles cobbled together on the basis of what is posted on foot.ie to see the proof of my point.
The only downside I can see is that would be hard to sell this politically & probably have some people moaning about cicil rights or other rubbish.The solution long term to the problem is to geld/neuter habitual criminals and prevent them from having children.
Eventually they would die out. Well we don't have the death penalty anymore so some other deterrent is required. And besides if poverty is the root of crime well then having less mouths to feed when you come out of jail will help them stay straight
Do the crime and lose your powers to procreate
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