Matt Holland

**zenokelly** · 04/03/2007, 1:17 PM

I just thought about this over the last couple of weeks but would there be any chance of Matthew Holland being persuaded out of retirement by Staunton. I'd fit him straight into the midfield beside Carsley for the Croker matches (presuming Andy Reid will be out injured).

Although the current state of the Charlton team being in the relegation zone and probably on their way down, Holland has impressed me in the last couple of months. But is there any way back into the international set up, even just for these 2 games in Crokker?

**carloz** · 04/03/2007, 2:37 PM

Well looking on yesterdays prformance and those over the last couple of weeks id have Holland in ahead of Ireland. Ireland was extremly poor yesterday and i really feel he isnt ready yet for international football yet.

**Hibs4Ever** · 04/03/2007, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ciaran

In terms of central midfielders, I'd rank them like this.

Andy Reid > Carsley > Steven Reid > Stephen Ireland > John O Shea > Liam Miller > Joey O Brien > Matt Holland.

So unless all those in front of him get injured... no chance.

I'd still pick Holland ahead of Douglas btw.

O'Shea?? Get a grip.

**danonion** · 04/03/2007, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ciaran

In terms of central midfielders, I'd rank them like this.

Andy Reid > Carsley > Steven Reid > Stephen Ireland > John O Shea > Liam Miller > Joey O Brien > Matt Holland.

So unless all those in front of him get injured... no chance.

I'd still pick Holland ahead of Douglas btw.

With Andy Reid in the center, Slovakia will tear us apart. Holland is at least as good (and more consistant) than Carsley. John O'Shea, Miller and O'Brien thats bordering on retarded. And Steven Reid is crocked.

**Colbert Report** · 04/03/2007, 7:17 PM

I also think he should be called up alongside Carsley, however, I don't see it happening in a million years.

**billybunter** · 04/03/2007, 9:43 PM

would take matty holland over o'shea, no question.

**tetsujin1979** · 04/03/2007, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by carloz

Well looking on yesterdays prformance and those over the last couple of weeks id have Holland in ahead of Ireland. Ireland was extremly poor yesterday and i really feel he isnt ready yet for international football yet.

I don't think you can really compare Holland and Ireland, they fill different roles at their clubs, Holland and Barton would be more apt, or Ireland and Andy Reid.

**Torn-Ado** · 05/03/2007, 12:54 AM

No way would I take Holland back.

We have to win these games right? And a midfield with Carsley and Holland will do that? My hole it would. Two of the most defensively minded centre midfielders in the premiership. They actually make Neil lennon look like a dynamic creative flair player.

I'd take my chances with Ireland in there.

**drinkfeckarse** · 05/03/2007, 8:56 AM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

No way would I take Holland back.

We have to win these games right? And a midfield with Carsley and Holland will do that? My hole it would. Two of the most defensively minded centre midfielders in the premiership. They actually make Neil lennon look like a dynamic creative flair player.

I'd take my chances with Ireland in there.

Exactly, zero creative ability. Ireland has 2 goals in 3 games and so far has looked like our only option other than Andy Reid who can be creative and unlock a defence with a killer ball. He's still got a bit to go as he's young but I think he's going to be a huge player for us in the future.

I really do wonder sometimes.

**Dr. Ogba** · 05/03/2007, 10:34 AM

Ah lads I know we're struggling at the moment but this is just being silly...

There is no way I'd have "The Invisible Man" anywhere near the Irish setup, no matter how bad we are!!!

**Aldini98** · 06/03/2007, 2:32 PM

sang God Save The Queen at Wembley whilst with Ipswich. Enjoys horse riding, hes obviously gay.

**paul_oshea** · 06/03/2007, 2:53 PM

aldini quality post

**Over the post** · 06/03/2007, 3:00 PM

Originally Posted by Aldini98

sang God Save The Queen at Wembley whilst with Ipswich. Enjoys horse riding, hes obviously gay.

P¡ssed this early on a Tuesday afternoon, good going!

**Calcio Jack** · 06/03/2007, 3:05 PM

To be read in a Keano accent

"...take him ..take him back...what do you mean take him back..."

Some of us don't forget Holland's patehtic contribution to the Saipan debate ie he was the gombeen man who wrote RK RIP and left it on the seat on the team bus which was usually occupied by Roy.....

More importantly he's got nothing to offer the Irish team at this stage of his career so wouldn't see any point in bringing him back

**The Legend** · 06/03/2007, 5:51 PM

Originally Posted by Aldini98

sang God Save The Queen at Wembley whilst with Ipswich. Enjoys horse riding, hes obviously gay.

Wow I know Camilla is ugly, but Charles is gay?

**Den Perry** · 10/03/2007, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by Calcio Jack

To be read in a Keano accent

"...take him ..take him back...what do you mean take him back..."

Some of us don't forget Holland's patehtic contribution to the Saipan debate ie he was the gombeen man who wrote RK RIP and left it on the seat on the team bus which was usually occupied by Roy.....

More importantly he's got nothing to offer the Irish team at this stage of his career so wouldn't see any point in bringing him back

Exactly...Holland is a c un*

**Paddy Garcia** · 10/03/2007, 9:27 PM

Best fans in the world ....................NOT

**Plastic Paddy** · 11/03/2007, 7:40 AM

Agreed PG, some of these comments are shameful to say the least. I think there's some growing up to be done by one or two posters here.

PP

**Closed Account 2** · 11/03/2007, 5:32 PM

wouldnt add anything to the team, not one for the future, I wouldnt bother having him back... unless he wanted to be manager.

**hamburg paul** · 11/03/2007, 8:11 PM

Its about time people stop dreamin about so called footballers coming out of retirement!How can anybody retire from international footie at the ripe old age of was it 30?correct me if im wrong!I think most people on this site would give their left arm to represent their country ,so what i would say is stop living in the past and lets get on with what we have!By the way Mattie could give Andy Reid some tips on retirement as well!Cause he is absolutley F......AT!