Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

[SkStu]

Oh to be reading a wikipedia summary after the fact. Living through this in real time is just constant disappointment.

At this stage, it feels like we're going to give it to someone who once heard about football on the radio, and who strangles prostitutes recreationally. And we're going to overpay them.

Genuine LOL there

[Snapshot]

Barry would be an excellent outcome. Beg, steal or borrow to get him.

[JR89]

At this stage, it feels like we're going to give it to someone who once heard about football on the radio, and who strangles prostitutes recreationally. And we're going to overpay them.

Wasn't Lennon already ruled out.

[pineapple stu]

Agree with you both. This comes across as a complete hail mary from the FAI here with little to no chance of landing.

And what's the Plan B?

I wouldn't mind Barry at all - though there's the usual caveat about a good coach not necessarily making a good manager. But I'm not alone I think in recognising Bayern (ok, maybe he's about to be sacked) and Portugal (going to the Euros with a seriously exciting team) is a better option than us. And if, as RLP suggests, he's being linked with a top Portuguese side where he can really launch himself in management, that gives us even less chance.

So - are we back at Square One if he turns us down?

[Olé Olé]

Even if he is in the frame for the Sporting job, there's no harm in asking.

Agreed, though, that it is Hail Mary stuff. He fits the brief - albeit he doesn't have management experience. But he has the body of work to suggest he's deserving a shot as "Head Coach", hence why he's being linked with a club role like Sporting Lisbon.

But, he fit the brief months ago as much as he does now and his situation with Bayern has been precarious for a while so his potential availability isn't news, more that it became relevant when Carsley turned on his heels which really does seem to be what happened...

[EalingGreen]

At this stage, it feels like we're going to give it to someone who once heard about football on the radio, and who strangles prostitutes recreationally. And we're going to overpay them.

Would still be an improvement on Kenny, no?

[SkStu]

And what's the Plan B?

I wouldn't mind Barry at all - though there's the usual caveat about a good coach not necessarily making a good manager. But I'm not alone I think in recognising Bayern (ok, maybe he's about to be sacked) and Portugal (going to the Euros with a seriously exciting team) is a better option than us. And if, as RLP suggests, he's being linked with a top Portuguese side where he can really launch himself in management, that gives us even less chance.

So - are we back at Square One if he turns us down?

I think he will turn us down and I think we are, for all intents and purposes, back at square one. I find it interesting that this is leaked after the FAI running such a tight ship for the last 7 (?) months when previously barely a squeak got out...

[elatedscum]

most likely event is JOSH is still interim in June and the FAI see who leaves jobs after the euros. Any chance of Canham appointing himself?

[backstothewall]

At this stage just give it to Chris Hughton.

[SkStu]

Honestly, i could get behind that. He is 65 so could be a short term but stable appointment that doesnt have a whole lot of downside and has a little upside - and ultimately would be an upgrade on SK. At this point, would allow the dust to settle, the squad and team to move out properly from the previous regime and then could go back to the well in 3-5 years time when things might look a little better overall in terms of FAI leadership and candidate availability.

[backstothewall]

They could come up with some face saving BS about him not being available in March due to logistical diffilculties or legal issues after leaving the Ghana job in Jan. Everyone would know it was horse **** but it would be very difficult to disprove and we could all move on.

[Razors left peg]

Imagine Canham and Hill in charge of a club team, there'd be no manager for about 4 seasons and they'd keep promising there'd be someone in place for the start of every season before going media dark from August to May

[seanfhear]

At this stage just give it to Chris Hughton.

If he wants the job and if he is, happy / unhappy, with the way the FAI have treated him re; The job !

[zero]

wouldn't be disappointed. he's managed players around our level in the past to a decent level. would command respect i feel.

[Demesne Lad]

I might as well put €10 on Graham Alexander.

[Razors left peg]

All journos seem to be reporting announcement will happen next week

[JR89]

At this stage just give it to Chris Hughton.

Heck I'd be ringing Gordon Strachan before considering JOS.

[brine3]

I might as well put €10 on Graham Alexander.

Might as well be Alexander Graham Bell at this stage.

[Jolly Red Giant]

If you want to find a manager - rather than zeroing in on one (who then rejects you because he doesn't want to work in the shambles you created) - the you spread a wide net, do your deep dive, make contact with people you think might work and invite them to an interview. It is not that difficult to find people -

For example - this list is drafted from coaches who have managed one of the top three clubs in Holland (and currently don't have a high-profile job) - Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV - I am not saying any of these are an option, but there are a dozen former managers from just three clubs in one country. If you repeat this process of all the clubs in every premier league you will end up with hundreds of names - do your research - whittle it down to 30-40 - contact them and see if any want to come for an interview. But there is zero indication that Hill and Canham have done anything like this to resolve the catastrophe that the FAI are now in.

Maurice Steijn (out of work)
John Heitinga (coach at West Ham)
Alfred Schreuder (currently coaching in UAE)
Marcel Keizer (currently coaching in Saudi Arabia)
Martin Jol (not coached since 2016)
Fred Rutten (currently a coach with PSV)
Ernest Faber (out of work)
Phillip Cocu (out of work)
Dick Advocaat (currently coach of the Curacao international team)
Giovanni van Bronckhorst (out of work)
Leon Vlemmings (out of work)
Mario Been (not coached since 2017)

And by the way - the three I would be interested in are Heitinga, Keizer and Faber.

[Olé Olé]

If you want to find a manager - rather than zeroing in on one (who then rejects you because he doesn't want to work in the shambles you created) - the you spread a wide net, do your deep dive, make contact with people you think might work and invite them to an interview. It is not that difficult to find people -

For example - this list is drafted from coaches who have managed one of the top three clubs in Holland (and currently don't have a high-profile job) - Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV - I am not saying any of these are an option, but there are a dozen former managers from just three clubs in one country. If you repeat this process of all the clubs in every premier league you will end up with hundreds of names - do your research - whittle it down to 30-40 - contact them and see if any want to come for an interview. But there is zero indication that Hill and Canham have done anything like this to resolve the catastrophe that the FAI are now in.

Maurice Steijn (out of work)
John Heitinga (coach at West Ham)
Alfred Schreuder (currently coaching in UAE)
Marcel Keizer (currently coaching in Saudi Arabia)
Martin Jol (not coached since 2016)
Fred Rutten (currently a coach with PSV)
Ernest Faber (out of work)
Phillip Cocu (out of work)
Dick Advocaat (currently coach of the Curacao international team)
Giovanni van Bronckhorst (out of work)
Leon Vlemmings (out of work)
Mario Been (not coached since 2017)

And by the way - the three I would be interested in are Heitinga, Keizer and Faber.

But John O'Shea played for us, Gus Poyet beat us and Anthony Barry coached us before.

Need to meet a minimum of one of these requirements and, unfortunately, for Dick Advocaat, we beat him.