Job? Managing and representing your country- That's an honour. You don't get asked again.Originally Posted by JR89
As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls
Yep. Dead to me, if the news and reasoning is true.
Very disappointing if the Carsley story is true.
Keane and Lennon are out of the question as far as I'm concerned. It would be a deliberate act of self- harm and a bomb waiting to go off to appoint either.
Hughton is past his shelf-life I'm afraid, though he would be preferable to the above. Low, low bar though that is.
Nobody else stands out among the names commonly mentioned.
I expect criticism for saying so, but I would suggest we reappoint Mick on a twelve-month contract as a glorified caretaker manager while taking our time in finding a suitable longer term successor to Kenny.
Better that than rashly giving a lengthy contract to one of the lesser and deeply uninspiring candidates whose names have been floated in the media.
Last edited by Trequartista20; 26/01/2024 at 6:27 PM.
This is the only good news today
I hope he gets 6 years in jail when the dust settles
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/...910658441.html
According to the Irish Times, no offer has been made
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...o-offers-made/
He is managing his country though. Not quite so easy a call in that case
And almost certainly no offer has been made in terms of going through the formal channels (asking permission through the FA etc). So technically that's correct. But it does seem likely at this point that the offer has been made through the back channels to Carsley and/or his agent, and he has said no.
Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone
Perhaps the FAI were unwilling / unable to pay for the kind of back-up team that Carsley would be expecting !
No one has officially said anything. I still think negotiations are on going. Would be very easy for the English FA to make statement that their employee is going nowhere. All we have is the story from a Daily Mail journo. I think there's legs in this yet
Its really not that complicated!!!
Some of the candidates are bordering on sad.
https://extra.ie/2024/01/27/sport/so...rsley-own-goal
An interesting article and credit to Quinn, unlike a lot of the Irish press pack, he isn't pretending that he knows more than he does here. As I thought and suggested above, the "no offer has been made" thing only relates to a formal offer, which wouldn't be made anyway unless it was effectively a done deal.
Clearly something has gone wrong somewhere this week, if I was to guess I would say it's maybe the size of the budget being offered in terms of backroom staff not being to Carsley's liking - so far at least, but that's just a guess.
Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone
Did we really expect anything other than a shambles from the FAI - even their most successful appointment, Charlton, came about through a chaotic process where Charlton was far from the front-runner for the job.
Canham and Hill need to take a step back now - acknowledge that there isn't going to be an appointment before the NL draw - regroup - see if there are bridges that can be rebuilt with Carsley (if they did ****-up the discussions) - and if not then start the process again.
The worst thing they could do is panic and appoint Lennon because they don't have anyone else on their list - hell - I'd even put up with Robbie Keane, who I consider an utterly useless waste of space who is concerned with nothing else than self-interest and self-advancement (he chases the money), before I would stand for Lennon getting the job.
If the FAI can get Barry or Eustace or mend fences with Carsley then fair enough. But Chris Hughton is still the candidate with the best record as a manager - yes Ghana were eliminated from AFCON and they played poorly, but Ghana are not a good team and Hughton managed to stabilise them and get them to AFCON. They only went out of the tournament because the players on the pitch against Mozambique panicked and let in two goals in injury time. The whistle goes two minutes earlier and Egypt are going home instead. Hughton would be a safe pair of hands, a stabilising force and would improve performances. Maybe that is exactly what the Irish team need right now.
Yeah ~ ~ You could see a fella that is used to working for the English FA, with all of their wealth, suddenly getting a big awakener when the money available from the FAI was discussed re; Carsley's back-up team.
The name in that article that would represent the biggest fiasco the FAI could possibly engineer for themselves is Robbie Keane. So that's almost certainly what will end up happening.
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
T'would help Robbie Keane " escape " from Israel !
Agree!
He’s also a good media performer. Will bring a calmness and professionalism that’s been lacking for a few years.
Folding my way into the big money!!!
"ghana are not a good team" neither are Ireland! Hughton would be a disaster. The less said about Lennon the better
Not just "mad", but offensively so. That said, as someone pointed out at the time, what he said was not essentially different from what 1 billion Hindus believe. And in any case, he might even have survived the scandal, until Tony Blair decided that football was also in his governing remit and called for him to be sacked the next day on Breakfast TV.
Anyhow to get back on point, Hoddle was in many respects a good manager (tactics, formations, game management etc), but ultimately not quite a great one, due to his inability to motivate entire squads. For example, showing up Beckham by demonstrating in front of the whole squad that he could still hit a better free kick than him didn't help, hence the nickname "Chocolate", i.e. loved himself so much he'd eat himself if he could!
Truly magnificent player, mind.
Despite that Hughton got them to AFCON and they were 2-0 in injury time to get to the knockout stages before they blew it.
Eustace would be the obvious choice now.
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