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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Does anyone genuinely believe the fai have an ace up their sleeves?!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    It's fairly clear there's no ace at this point.
    Yeah, increasingly this.

    Was it 11th April the date they have? Can bookmark that for sure. But what March contractual commitments there are have been and gone. And the only person whose situation seems to have changed in that time is Poyet who (a) has seemingly denied interest and (b) is I think only linked because of his own earlier comments

    It's all very weird. And whoever it is, I don't see them being much better than the guys who've already been linked

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    I'm not fan of the man, but they've also lied to Lennon by the looks of it. He says he was told he had missed out to someone with international experience, but it looks like they just passed on him (most likely due to some of the personal stuff about him that was resurfacing) as there appears to be nobody else in the frame at the moment (other than O'Shea, who would be a laughable appointment and was clearly only intended as an interim manager at that point anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    I'm not fan of the man, but they've also lied to Lennon by the looks of it. He says he was told he had missed out to someone with international experience, but it looks like they just passed on him (most likely due to some of the personal stuff about him that was resurfacing) as there appears to be nobody else in the frame at the moment (other than O'Shea, who would be a laughable appointment and was clearly only intended as an interim manager at that point anyway).
    If our options are really Poyet, Roy or O'Shea we should be going back to Lennon on our knees.... and I was one of the more critical of Lennon and didn't want him near the job.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Ok we are where we are
    I think Steve bruce would do a decent job. He's very experienced, some good some bad.. but that's the reality of who we can get. Someone who hasn't had it all his own way.

    He would be better the jos and gus.

    He also has a strong connection to the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Does anyone genuinely believe the fai have an ace up their sleeves?!.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    It's fairly clear there's no ace at this point.
    It’s also fairly clear now that they’ve been wearing a feckin t-shirt all this time and all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    If our options are really Poyet, Roy or O'Shea we should be going back to Lennon on our knees.... and I was one of the more critical of Lennon and didn't want him near the job.
    No f*cking way - not only is he useless, his treatment of his ex-mistress should automatically rule him out of any job (just like the racist should not be in the frame either).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Ok we are where we are
    I think Steve bruce would do a decent job. He's very experienced, some good some bad.. but that's the reality of who we can get. Someone who hasn't had it all his own way.

    He would be better the jos and gus.

    He also has a strong connection to the country
    I think Hughton would be better than Bruce - a better club record and Hughton has experience as an international manager.

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    In fairness, you think Hughton would be better than everyone.
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    I wouldn't see Hughton as a bad appointment. In an era when few managers escape multiple dismissals, his better experiences outweigh his disappointments. Good at Birmingham, Norwich and Newcastle - and excellent at Brighton. Forest were bottom when he arrived but he kept them up. Ghana, a maelstrom of politics and corruption, was a poor decision.

    At the very least, Hughton would make Ireland hard to beat again, especially in Dublin. That he would cast our new-found forward talent to the hoofball gods is a feckless notion. I would be confident he'd play a pragmatic, result-based style devoid of cliched concepts. Otherwise we'd have learned nothing from the past three disastrous years.
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    Herve Renard hasn't been contacted, but like many, would listen.

    Herve will lead us to glories unimaginable to modern minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I think Steve bruce would do a decent job.

    He also has a strong connection to the country
    Yep, and he could employ that strong connection as his Assistant. Again.

    https://trainingground.guru/articles...uding-son-alex

    More here: https://nifootball.blogspot.com/2012/10/alex-bruce.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    I wouldn't see Hughton as a bad appointment

    - and excellent at Brighton.
    After BHA's rather turgid 0-0 draw at Brentford last night, some of their fans were saying that the fare on offer recently has been like a throwback to the days of Hughton.

    It was not a compliment.

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    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...-vacancy-talk/

    France women's boss Herve Renard refused to bite on suggestions he could be in the running to become the next Republic of Ireland men's head coach, instead training his focus on beating the Girls in Green tomorrow night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    After BHA's rather turgid 0-0 draw at Brentford last night, some of their fans were saying that the fare on offer recently has been like a throwback to the days of Hughton.

    It was not a compliment.
    Yeah, they've had such amazing rosters over the years. 1970 Brazil is jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    In fairness, you think Hughton would be better than everyone.
    Never claimed any of the such - wouldn’t have an issue with Carsley, Barry or BBM of those who have been mentioned.

    When you get to the likes of Lennon, the Keanes, etc or the racist - then Hughton is streets ahead of them in terms of achievements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Yeah, they've had such amazing rosters over the years. 1970 Brazil is jealous.
    Now you mention it, BHA's manager in 1970 was Cobh man, and former ROI international, Pat Saward. But I don't think the FAI should consider appointing him, not least because he died in 2002.

    And getting back to the present, more specifically Chris Hughton, my point was that there is no great yearning for CH amongst BHA fans recent enough to remember him, make of that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    And getting back to the present, more specifically Chris Hughton, my point was that there is no great yearning for CH amongst BHA fans recent enough to remember him, make of that what you will.
    The overwhelming majority of Brighton fans recognise the outstanding job that Hughton did, saving them from relegation to League 1, getting them promoted to the PL, and keeping them there for two years on a shoestring budget. Hughton laid the foundation for the relative success that Potter and RDZ have had since. We do not know what Hughton would have done with Brighton if he had been given the resources that were made available to both Potter and RDZ - but that is water under the bridge now - and most Brighton fans have nothing but fondness and respect for Chris Hughton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke View Post
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024...-vacancy-talk/

    France women's boss Herve Renard refused to bite on suggestions he could be in the running to become the next Republic of Ireland men's head coach, instead training his focus on beating the Girls in Green tomorrow night.
    We have heard people saying Robbie Keane should not be considered for the job because he works in Israel.

    Yet Renard was manager of the Saudi Arabian NT. And in case there should be any misunderstanding, that is the same Saudi Arabia which has inter alia killed thousands of people, including civilians, in Yemen; which regularly imprisons and even executes political opponents; which brutally represses gays, women and the Press severely; has made all other religions bar Islam illegal; regularly holds multiple public executions by beheading; and under the guise of providing consular assistance, lured a journalist and joint Saudi/US citizen to their Embassy in Turkey, where they tortured and murdered him, before dismembering his body (I am assuming he was dead by this stage) and disposing of the remains at an unknown location.

    Of course, all sorts of governments do all sorts of nasty things in the course of their normal business, except that this Saudi government has also deliberately subverted Football, using outright bribery and corruption etc, in order to sportswash its own reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant View Post
    We do not know what Hughton would have done with Brighton if he had been given the resources that were made available to both Potter and RDZ
    There is no doubt that CH did a good overall job during his time at BHA. But the key behind BHA's remarkable resurgence over the last decade or more hasn't been solely down to their managerial appointments, rather it has been the stewardship of owner Tony Bloom.

    And the fact that he didn't trust CH to take them to the next level after intial success, while his replacements Potter and De Zerbi both did, surely says something, no?

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