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    https://x.com/stpatsfc/status/1765426622897729828?s=46

    Pat’s selling home tickets for the shed end on Friday….
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    https://x.com/stpatsfc/status/1765426622897729828?s=46

    Pat’s selling home tickets for the shed end on Friday….
    Dundalk away sales must be understandably low for this to have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    Dundalk away sales must be understandably low for this to have happened.
    I'd say we will be lucky to have 300

    Charging Dundalk fans €22 plus €2 admin fee and is ridiculous btw

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    Maybe they are putting all the dundalk supporters in the stand.
    I don't see how you segregate the shed end

    Edit: entrance from camac side for home supporters.
    22 is steep for tickets so plus a charge
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    Republic of Ireland v England, Tuesday 9 April

    What chance of a full house for this fixture, creating a record attendance for Women's sport in Ireland maybe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    Dundalk away sales must be understandably low for this to have happened.
    Most fickle fans in LoI imo! There is always a number of floating fan or bandwagoners at all clubs but we've never converted that potential in to a more hardcore type fan. It isnt all Oriel is a kip, its a combination of the disconnect with the community, the loss of Liam Burns in an outreach role to 1st team coach, poor performances rather than poor results as while Dundalk fans can be fickle and hard to please, a poor team losing but busting a gut will be applauded, a good team winning badly will be applauded with grumbles, a team with potential not grafting, like last season rankled too many times and has been carried in to this season and are now being booed. We dont know if this side is good enough yet but preseason concerns are, so far, looking more accurate than wanted.

    High ownership turnover always takes its toll as a club changes direction each time. Dont recall fastfix owners doing a whole lot on building support bar the organic growth of winning leagues and especially cup finals that hook young fans adding a new generation of fan.

    Peak6 were on about analytics on fan base development, using data to identify growth - nice idea but consolidate with what you have and that was good crowds due to on field success so when they are already in the door the strategy is different than looking at data to identify potential market to increase a fanbase (signing players form South Korea to develop and international following.....)

    All missed oportunities. I dont have suggestions on what should have been done but Id have looked at what Bohs were up to, for example, and looked to see if a few ideas could be pinched, The return of local ownership was lauded as a reconnection with fan base but the club just got more distant and the disconnect grew, the team didnt have that connection with the crowd either (hard to explain that phenomonen but die hard football fans will know what I mean). This surge in LoI attendances will pass us by!!!

    Ainscough seems like an owner that gets how a LoI club needs to embed in a community to particularly support a club during the barren spells, he could be coming in to the middle of a perfect storm of needing fan support ie income streams, while a team could be poor and in a relegation battle (when you really need fans to stand up and try and get a team over the line, more than a title win imo, but thats a tad in the idealistic realm, not winning and and many Dundalk fans will stop bothering and the old excuses will be rolled out again eg not enough locals blah blah).

    Without looking it up, the last time we had so many Scots recruited probably was under John Hewitt and that didnt end well at all, a first time ever relegation a couple of years after being champions - why I scoff at anybody who would say its not possible for any teams to be relegated, Shamrock Rovers fan Im sure would agree as you just never know, especially in LoI and a 10 team format.

    The rumour mill is in overdrive in Dundalk on both manager and owner - one being that there is only finance in place to see the club to the end of the month. I cant say that that is total horsesh1t as I have called some ruours inthe past as I just dont know at the moment, Im not sure too many do which is why the rumours swing from throwing the kitchen sink at Stephen Kenny to replace O'Donnell, SK in as DoF, SK in on a short term contract, SK in as the tea lady, no money to sack O'Donnell (Pats fans would enjoy that one). Garttland is being lined up, to we are totally broke. All are absolutely true and from the brother's friend's cousin who knows someone itk. When rumours vary to such an extent,in the past, usualy none of them are true but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Most fickle fans in LoI imo! There is always a number of floating fan or bandwagoners at all clubs but we've never converted that potential in to a more hardcore type fan. It isnt all Oriel is a kip, its a combination of the disconnect with the community, the loss of Liam Burns in an outreach role to 1st team coach, poor performances rather than poor results as while Dundalk fans can be fickle and hard to please, a poor team losing but busting a gut will be applauded, a good team winning badly will be applauded with grumbles, a team with potential not grafting, like last season rankled too many times and has been carried in to this season and are now being booed. We dont know if this side is good enough yet but preseason concerns are, so far, looking more accurate than wanted.

    High ownership turnover always takes its toll as a club changes direction each time. Dont recall fastfix owners doing a whole lot on building support bar the organic growth of winning leagues and especially cup finals that hook young fans adding a new generation of fan.

    Peak6 were on about analytics on fan base development, using data to identify growth - nice idea but consolidate with what you have and that was good crowds due to on field success so when they are already in the door the strategy is different than looking at data to identify potential market to increase a fanbase (signing players form South Korea to develop and international following.....)

    All missed oportunities. I dont have suggestions on what should have been done but Id have looked at what Bohs were up to, for example, and looked to see if a few ideas could be pinched, The return of local ownership was lauded as a reconnection with fan base but the club just got more distant and the disconnect grew, the team didnt have that connection with the crowd either (hard to explain that phenomonen but die hard football fans will know what I mean). This surge in LoI attendances will pass us by!!!

    Ainscough seems like an owner that gets how a LoI club needs to embed in a community to particularly support a club during the barren spells, he could be coming in to the middle of a perfect storm of needing fan support ie income streams, while a team could be poor and in a relegation battle (when you really need fans to stand up and try and get a team over the line, more than a title win imo, but thats a tad in the idealistic realm, not winning and and many Dundalk fans will stop bothering and the old excuses will be rolled out again eg not enough locals blah blah).

    Without looking it up, the last time we had so many Scots recruited probably was under John Hewitt and that didnt end well at all, a first time ever relegation a couple of years after being champions - why I scoff at anybody who would say its not possible for any teams to be relegated, Shamrock Rovers fan Im sure would agree as you just never know, especially in LoI and a 10 team format.

    The rumour mill is in overdrive in Dundalk on both manager and owner - one being that there is only finance in place to see the club to the end of the month. I cant say that that is total horsesh1t as I have called some ruours inthe past as I just dont know at the moment, Im not sure too many do which is why the rumours swing from throwing the kitchen sink at Stephen Kenny to replace O'Donnell, SK in as DoF, SK in on a short term contract, SK in as the tea lady, no money to sack O'Donnell (Pats fans would enjoy that one). Garttland is being lined up, to we are totally broke. All are absolutely true and from the brother's friend's cousin who knows someone itk. When rumours vary to such an extent,in the past, usualy none of them are true but...
    Surely it's a concern that much like the FAI and their imminent managerial appointment or imminent new sponsorship announcement lark that Ainscough has stated on a couple of occasions that new investment was imminent and yet there's no sign of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Surely it's a concern that much like the FAI and their imminent managerial appointment or imminent new sponsorship announcement lark that Ainscough has stated on a couple of occasions that new investment was imminent and yet there's no sign of it?
    No surely about it, it is absolutely a concern until (if) additional investment is confirmed. That said maybe Ainscough has deep enough pockets still for now, maybe investment is sorted and we are rich again and itching to get to July....maybe maybe maybe. The uncertainty around the club is basically where you could say fans lack communication hence the sense ofdisconnect. Caught a bit if a club doesnt want to state any sensitive financial info, but there is a balance to be had. Even if just some of doom merchant rumours are squished, itd be something. There is also possibly a need to just trust the new regime and let them get on with things as ye get just the slightest impression that there is a lot of stuff to be sorted!!
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    Great going from Treaty so far this season, good to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTFC View Post
    UCD 354, Galway 3475, Treaty 2179, Bohs 4429, Athlone 786,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    Great going from Treaty so far this season, good to see.
    Great to see,no reason they can’t prosper with a good population base there..
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    4,511 at Pats Dundalk, 200 of which were Dundalk fans. Hopefully the half of the Shed end will continue to be used by home fans, the only games away fans actually use it are Bohs, rovers and shels so I’d say it should be do-able
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    3100 in the Brandywell last night. Around 50 away fans

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    Are these crowds 100% accurate that are coming from Pats I wonder? There were times at Dundalk where even though the exact figure was called out, it seemed to be a little more, def was out by at least 2 or 300 last season or before.

    For Pats, last night figure reported was 4,511, the main stand was full but not 100% packed, what does that hold, 1,500? Behind goal uncovered seating had a great crowd but not every seat was taken, what does this hold 1,200?, Pats fans shed end was it around 400? That leaves almost 1,500 or possibly more at the Camac side?

    I wasn't at it so can't judge. Maybe 4,500 was indeed correct, and hats off especially after losing 3 in a row if it was, it just didn't seem it.

    We'll be lucky to get 2k on Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    4,511 at Pats Dundalk, 200 of which were Dundalk fans. Hopefully the half of the Shed end will continue to be used by home fans, the only games away fans actually use it are Bohs, rovers and shels so I’d say it should be do-able
    Not that it matters, but Dundalk sold 213 tickets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Are these crowds 100% accurate that are coming from Pats I wonder? There were times at Dundalk where even though the exact figure was called out, it seemed to be a little more, def was out by at least 2 or 300 last season or before.

    For Pats, last night figure reported was 4,511, the main stand was full but not 100% packed, what does that hold, 1,500? Behind goal uncovered seating had a great crowd but not every seat was taken, what does this hold 1,200?, Pats fans shed end was it around 400? That leaves almost 1,500 or possibly more at the Camac side?

    I wasn't at it so can't judge. Maybe 4,500 was indeed correct, and hats off especially after losing 3 in a row if it was, it just didn't seem it.

    We'll be lucky to get 2k on Friday.
    There's 2800 seats between the main and patrons stands and both were sold out. Main stand is sold out this year on season tickets alone, so every seat is accounted for even if there are some no-shows. Similarly I know a good few people who have season tickets in the patrons stand that often just stand on the Camac because they can't get enligj seats together. I stand on the Camac and it's as bursting at the seams as a terrace can get at this point, you can barely move once the game has kicked off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    There's 2800 seats between the main and patrons stands and both were sold out. Main stand is sold out this year on season tickets alone, so every seat is accounted for even if there are some no-shows. Similarly I know a good few people who have season tickets in the patrons stand that often just stand on the Camac because they can't get enligj seats together. I stand on the Camac and it's as bursting at the seams as a terrace can get at this point, you can barely move once the game has kicked off.
    Fair play Jack, that sounds the biz, wish we had that spin for crowds, even in SK era we only hit 4k+ a few times.
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